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ps3gamer
03-10-2011, 11:19 AM
Out of curiosity, what's the percentage of democrats to republicans on here?

Landy
03-10-2011, 04:41 PM
What about the folks who are neither, like me?

Luckymann
03-11-2011, 12:12 AM
I'm a Constitutionalist. My views are frequently so far to the right they sound left. Too bad our politicians have failed to read our US Constitution.

Brigit Astar
03-11-2011, 03:22 AM
They don't even know what the Constitution is. I'm a moderate--neither democrat nor republican--sort of a libertarian--except for its view that drugs should be legalized

crzy67
03-11-2011, 05:18 AM
Free thinking Independent. I am sick of both sides being so full of themselves.

ShinChan
03-11-2011, 12:12 PM
I'm a Constitutionalist. My views are frequently so far to the right they sound left. Too bad our politicians have failed to read our US Constitution.

i seriously doubt that you have read or even understand the constitution. Most of your views are so extreme that they are unconstitutional.

rockywhoreor
03-12-2011, 09:30 AM
I'm closer to siding with the Libertarian party than Dem or Rep, but I don't have a party allegiance.

kavic
03-17-2011, 03:46 PM
I am a proud conservative not republican and definitely not a liberal. I support the constitution as written, original content not the bastardization of it by our recent congresses,presidents and judges.

Luckymann
03-17-2011, 09:26 PM
KMA, ShinChan!

lookinforward
03-18-2011, 08:51 AM
I personally will vote either party. I base my vote on what candidate I feel can best get the job done, those who's views I agree with, and which one I trust to do what is best for the country. I admit I have voted for some real poor representatives in the past, but in my defense, when I placed my vote I liked what they stood for and what they wanted to do. The real problem is, most politicians will say anything they need to in order to get the support of the people. I also find that while some politicians have good intentions, they run into party opposition and accomplish nothing.

What upsets me the most is, we elect a person to office with the understanding they represent all the people. Their job is not to represent the ones party line, that voted for them. But we see so much party politics that it if getting sickening. Republicans voting against anything the Democrats place before them, and then the other way around. This only creates stalemates, makes it so that the party in majority tends to set the pace for the country, and also accomplishes very little.

All that said... we still IMO have the best system of government and with the will of the people can and do accomplish a great deal of good. The trouble is I foresee that all coming to an end.

espana
03-19-2011, 03:17 AM
Does it matter republican or democrat senate and congress are all paid for by big buisness to insure that little changes. With the drug companies and HMOs budget for lobbying and donations running at a decleared cost of 2.5 million A DAY just short of a billion a year what chance do Americans have of ever getting a fair shake.

Halliburton the company parodied so well in the Pulled TV series JERICHO again contributes to both parties and was never brought to book over physical cash transported to IRAQ and lost ? by Halliburton 500 million in 20 and 50 dollar bills the investigation lost in srenate commite It also now transpires that the real cause of the BP oil spill can be laid directley at its feet will they face any sanction I dont think so.

Shall we look at the banking sector and where there donations help the american people acheive a fairer system of finance and credit last year records show fees and donations to senators running at 90 million

You can go on forever looking at individual pressure groups and companies and how much they DONATE to individuals throughout the political system and argue just how much influence they excert on the joint Houses but with the conservative estimate of 3.8 billion in donations washing round the system only the most gullible of us can think that the influence this money gathers is used to benefit the american people as a whole so REPUBLICAN DEMOCRAT ther both as corrupt as each other Snouts deep in the feeding trough of coreperate AMERICA

Bad Black Beast
04-14-2011, 02:40 PM
Well I`m from Europe and there you can get well informed about the political situation in the USA too. Also I am interested in politics and always had a look over the ocean to our American neighboors. But as I saw the vote result I was a little bit confused. Because when I take a look at the actions of both parties, it`s more a choice between pest and cholera.

Glacialis
04-23-2011, 07:39 AM
a choice between pest and cholera.

Hear hear!

oae1992
04-30-2011, 09:16 PM
I'm an Independant and I usually try to vote for the person most qualified for the job, having said that...I'm still waiting for a fully qualified individual to step forward and run!

loobinator69
06-13-2011, 09:06 PM
im a democrat, but i also look at the canidate. im actually sort of independent, but i usually side with democrats, partially because republicans are so fucked up (palin, bachman, limbaugh, beck, trump, palin again, palin three times, PALIN in caps.)

still, i find it funny how so many are republicans on this site. isnt porn against coservatist views?

SF3P0X1
07-19-2011, 10:25 PM
I'm... not sure what I am. I vote based on who I think will get things done, while at the same time doesn't spend their entire campaign slandering their opponent.

... so I've never voted...

Brigit Astar
07-19-2011, 11:29 PM
Republican

rollingrocker
07-22-2011, 11:43 PM
Small government conservative civil libertarian.

In other words, neither.

rollingrocker
07-22-2011, 11:43 PM
im a democrat, but i also look at the canidate. im actually sort of independent, but i usually side with democrats, partially because republicans are so fucked up (palin, bachman, limbaugh, beck, trump, palin again, palin three times, PALIN in caps.)

still, i find it funny how so many are republicans on this site. isnt porn against coservatist views?

Take some time to understand those you oppose.

ccman84
07-23-2011, 04:08 AM
if i were an american, id be a staunch democrat.

darkenergy134
07-25-2011, 12:47 AM
Thinker.

ShinChan
08-08-2011, 12:58 AM
Liberal

kavic
08-26-2011, 08:22 AM
Winston Churchill is quoted for saying " If at twenty you are not a liberal you have no heart. If at forty you are not a conservative you have no brain"

Brigit Astar
08-26-2011, 12:00 PM
I'm beginning to think there's not that much difference between republicas an d democrats

perdiff
08-26-2011, 05:51 PM
I'm a centrist

comsmith22
09-01-2011, 08:00 PM
An American, with the ability to think and see reality, and see thru the way the mass media and career politicians spin the truth to support their points of view... ...

drlauren
09-01-2011, 09:19 PM
Out of curiosity, what's the percentage of democrats to republicans on here?

The GOP is a dying breed. I'm a professor (moderate Democrat) and will tell you today's college kids hate, hate the GOP. They are tolerant of minorities and gays, support a woman's right to chose, have no problem helping the poor and disabled. All those things the GOP is against (Medicare just becoming vouchers to buy insurance? Gee.). They also believe the Tea Party is a bunch of Neanderthals who need to get educated to avoid total stupidity. I went to UCLA and will tell you if there were Republicans, they didn't advertise. NY & Calif. Republicans are basically Democrats with conservative fiscal beliefs.

goofydude
09-06-2011, 09:10 PM
I'm independent but tend to vote democrat, simply due to around here the 3rd parties never even seem to get 10%.

rollingrocker
09-22-2011, 06:04 PM
The GOP is a dying breed. I'm a professor (moderate Democrat) and will tell you today's college kids hate, hate the GOP. They are tolerant of minorities and gays, support a woman's right to chose, have no problem helping the poor and disabled. All those things the GOP is against (Medicare just becoming vouchers to buy insurance? Gee.). They also believe the Tea Party is a bunch of Neanderthals who need to get educated to avoid total stupidity. I went to UCLA and will tell you if there were Republicans, they didn't advertise. NY & Calif. Republicans are basically Democrats with conservative fiscal beliefs.

So in other words your students hate a caricature. Knowing nothing about actual Republicans and even less about their Tea Party cousins, they direct their venom at straw men. Kind of reminds me of NYC film critic Pauline Kael's most famous quote: "I don't know how Nixon got re-elected. I don't know anyone who voted for him." That was 40 years ago, and not much has changed.

As for me, I'm an independent libertarian who usually holds my nose and votes Republican because they are the lesser of two incompetencies. I voted for Clinton in '96 because the Republicans dropped the ball by fielding Dole. I've not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since then.

crzy67
10-13-2011, 11:28 PM
I call myself an semi-conservative anarchists with libertarian tendencies. LOL.

Brigit Astar
10-14-2011, 06:46 PM
I label myself as a conservative in politics and a liberal in sex

rbartlett
10-15-2011, 08:33 PM
I am a staunch, hard-core, independent thinker that tends to agree with a lot of libertarian views to a degree but tends to lean Democratic in voting due to the fact that I can't agree in principle with most Republican views on life in general and their basic hatred for everything they don't agree with.

However... EITHER extreme is scary, whether the extreme left or the extreme right.

A curious discussion would really be what makes people the way they are politically. I mean if you are or say you are a Republican... why? What is it about their philosophies that draws you to them and the same for Democrats.

I will say this. In support of Democrats at the VERY least they 'say' they care about people and tend to try and assist even if I don't always agree with the way they go about it. I also have a very very very strong tendency to think that your personal life is your own. Whether you're gay or enjoy porn or believe in your right to an abortion or anything else the Republicans tend to think is evil and should be outlawed, to me as long as you're not hurting someone else, why should it matter to them.

What I DO NOT or vehemently disagree with in regards to Democrats is the incessant need to throw money at something and think that fixes it. It doesn't and it's one of the biggest problems we have in this country right now.

What we really need is someone that steps forward and attacks both systems and finally just tells the truth about what needs to be done. Unfortunately most of you know that's probably never going to happen because of the stranglehold that the 2 party system has in this country and the money they have and can tempt people with, that makes potentially good politicians nothing more than just politicians that only care about re-elections and not rocking the boat.

rbartlett
10-16-2011, 10:15 PM
Brigit - March 11th


They don't even know what the Constitution is. I'm a moderate--neither democrat nor republican--sort of a libertarian--except for its view that drugs should be legalized

Brigit - July 20th


Republican

Just curious.

comsmith22
10-16-2011, 11:21 PM
Me thinks we have a loose cannon on deck...

rbartlett
10-17-2011, 12:03 AM
Because I was curious how someone changed their mind in a 4 month span?

Yep, call me crazy.

Brigit Astar
10-18-2011, 09:06 AM
Curious as it might be to you, I have changed my views on a lot of things in the past four months--not just politics. I dread the coming elections, because of all the bullshit and propaganda that will be flying out. I'm going to close my tv viewing to only football. I'm going to control the media, I'm not going to let the media control me. I only get steamed when I hear obviously idiotic political statements by supposedly intelligent people--and they expect you to believe it! Their ignorance is only surpassed by their arrogance.

rbartlett
10-18-2011, 09:07 PM
I dread the coming elections, because of all the bullshit and propaganda that will be flying out.

And this would be new why? Seems to me that most of the elections held recently at pretty much any level fall under that sentence.

Brigit Astar
10-20-2011, 12:44 AM
Yes, but it doesn't have to be that way. I think both the Democrats and Republicans are sorely lacking in basic civility.

Loverr
02-02-2012, 02:24 AM
im an independent

Loverr
02-02-2012, 02:25 AM
Wow it's exactly even haha

lottatush
02-21-2012, 07:37 AM
You forgot about independant.

Brigit Astar
02-21-2012, 03:28 PM
I used to be a Republican but I am more and more becoming an Independent

mrdirt27
03-14-2012, 06:44 PM
Mostly Libertarian.

Gmoney273
03-15-2012, 12:28 AM
My political views are not by party, but if the person in which I vote for can get the job done. But, to be absolutely honest with you I am sick and tired of the Inter-Party conflicts between the people running for office. And, with all of this, I am not sure this country will ever pull itself out of this recession.

Raymond Pist
07-05-2012, 11:58 PM
Er, NEITHER?
--Ray

Starwizard
07-06-2012, 05:49 AM
Party? Did someone say there was a party? I wanna party!

Seriously, I have never really understood any of the parties. If I take a interest in the election, I will try to gather info on the candidates that isnt too propaganda based, and then make a decision on that.

Brigit Astar
07-06-2012, 07:18 AM
As the time draws ever nearer to the election, we are going to be bombarded with all kinds of bullshit--they are going to drench us with it.

TheExodu5
08-17-2012, 02:45 AM
Voted for the NDP in the last Canadian election...so rather liberal, I'd say.

jreezy33
08-24-2012, 09:38 PM
I am what I like to call a Federal Libertarian. What does that mean? I'm glad you asked!

1. Libertarianism: "The best government is that which governs least." I believe that statement to be true. The government's primary responsibility is to protect the liberty of the individual. There should be minimal taxation, and that should go to agencies such as national defense, enforcement of contracts, police protection, and emergency services, among others. But the primary scope of government should be on protecting the life and liberty of the individual.

2. Federalism: the partnership of the national government and state/local governments. In addition to "The best government is that which governs least," I believe that the government that governs closest governs best. This means that state or local governments should be more involved in the day to day lives of citizens instead of the national government. This allows the states and localities to pass legislation they deem important. If Mississippi wants to pass a law banning abortion or teaching the Bible in schools, then so be it. If that's what the local people want, that's what the local people should have. There shouldn't be a nanny national government looking over the shoulders of the states. If there should be laws that seriously impact the citizenry (i.e. abortion, etc), then it should be as local a regulation as possible.

So, there it is, in a nutshell. Realistic? No. That's my dream system for the USA. I actually think the founders intended the country to be more like this, at least compared to what our country is right now. So even though I have a serious libertarian leaning in my thinking, it's mostly on the economic side, so I tend to vote Republican in a tight race. But in a race when the result is going to be a blowout (one way or another), I vote Libertarian.

Brigit Astar
08-25-2012, 06:29 AM
I think Thomas Jefferson, and most of the "founding fathers," would agree with you 100%

kaidman
08-25-2012, 06:40 AM
sorry I'm kinda a mad scientist so the only party I support is the league of evil or as you know them the care bears club

PaPa_Wolf
09-10-2012, 10:01 PM
When I first started voting, I was a democrat. Somewhere along the way, I changed parties. I tend to be a completely radical conservative. I tend to believe in the old saying that a government has two purposes: "Defend the shores and deliver the mail." Government is too huge, too moribund to do anything, and is filled with too many individuals who believe they have both the right and the wisdom to tell people what they should and shouldn't do.

Right now I believe there is too much apathy in this nation. There is the old saying, "All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

So as for political party, I identify myself as a republican, but in reality I don't a clue as to what I would "officially" rank as. I vote for whatever person I think might actually (probably accidentally) do some good. Right now I see little hope for even that happening.

SEVERUSMAX
09-12-2012, 11:12 PM
Increasingly a cynic. Disgruntled with both parties. Not a fan of the far left agenda, nor the far right one. I disagree firmly with the Democrats on energy policy (they have none, from what I can tell, except to pander to the radical green types), oppose gun control, mostly support capital punishment (but with reservations regarding the issue of guilt vs. innocence), favor a strong military, but not the kind of reckless adventurism we see today, believe that welfare reform was a good thing, but we also need some kind of retraining approach so that those getting out of welfare can actually get jobs in today's marketplace, support some kind of educational establishment, but think it needs to be drastically curtailed, favor right to work, but think that it shouldn't be used to ban unions (in other words, it should be up to the workers themselves to choose yes or no on unionization), oppose illegal emigration, but believe firmly that some things done to stop it are unconstitutional, oppose abortion with certain key exceptions, generally tend toward radical civil libertarianism on most other social issues, believe the states should be respected more by the Feds, but they should in turn respect civil rights more, think that health care reform should be something handled by the states, to let them experiment until they find a practical solution to the issue, think that government has uses (roads, post offices, that sort of thing), but that it needs to be held to better account and the politicians in particular punished by stricter laws, lending needs to be regulated better, corporate welfare needs to be slashed, taxes have their place, but they are frequently abused as a means of social control (tobacco and gasoline taxes, for example, which illustrate left-wing hypocrisy on "progressive" vs. "regressive" taxes)....in short, I'm a mix of moderate and libertarian, with more than my share of cynicism about both parties. Outright bribery of our public officials is truly disgusting. Our monetary policy needs to change, too. It is radically inflationary and irresponsible. And ethanol subsidies have to go. They are a way for large agribusinesses to fleece the taxpayers, nothing more.

Caveman
12-17-2015, 02:34 PM
I'm actually registered as a Libertarian but would refer to myself as a political absurdist.

groomleader
10-10-2018, 08:18 AM
Mark me as Independent, with liberal leanings. I'll vote Democrat IF the Democrat matches what I believe in. I don't just check off the one party because they are that party.

Bridgit Astar
10-10-2018, 08:50 AM
I am a total independent. In my opinion, Republican and Democrat parties are the same